If you want to understand what it takes to get robots out of the lab and into production, this one’s for you.
Today, I’m joined by the cofounders of Bifrost: Charles Wong (CEO) and Aravind Kandiah (CTO).
Bifrost is one of the leaders in synthetic data generation and simulation for evaluation. They’ve built some of the most impressive tools I’ve seen to date for helping robotics developers train, test, and deploy autonomy in the real world.
In this episode, we discuss:
what most teams still get wrong with simulation
why real-world data alone is not enough
why evaluation is becoming the real bottleneck
how the best teams are closing the infamous sim-to-real gap
where simulation will be in 5-10 years
These guys are two of the sharpest founders building in robotics right now — and they’ve been at it long before the physical AI hype train. I think you’ll find their insights super valuable and rich with signals from the frontlines.
With that, enjoy this episode with Charles and Aravind.









